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Old February 8th, 2017, 12:03 PM   #1
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Here's my 67', just has a 1600 Dp (soon to be turbo 1915cc)
I'm having a garage built at the moment and once that is done I want to flat pan it. I'm still thinking its need more low, thoughts? If I do I probably will need to tub the headlights, pie cut the frame head, flat pans etc etc out of state at the moment but once I get back garage should be done and we can get work started
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Old February 8th, 2017, 01:40 PM   #2
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I see no need for it to be lower, since you asked, but it's your car. Do what moves ya!
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Old February 8th, 2017, 01:51 PM   #3
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Here's my 67'.... I'm still thinking its need more low, thoughts?
I think the stance is just right. But it is your car.

Depends on how you want to do it, and what kind of "ride quality" you want. If you're riding static - looks to be a good height. Low enough to look good - high enough to handle decently. (assuming you have drop spindles, adjustable beam with castors placed to correct geometry)

I drive mine every day - my framehead sits at 2 inches with me in it and a full tank of gas. High enough I can get into most parking lots in town and only have a few "hits" every so often when I am not paying attention or driving a new road.

Don't run over Jack Rabbits at that height - leaves a very long red streak - like half a mile long!

I was running lower - 1.5 inches. Kept hitting the white disks in the road (especially when I'm on the brakes - back then if I slammed on them, I would scrape pan. Cool for about a week - then it got REALLY old. Hitting framehead at 60 will wake you up in a hurry!


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Old February 8th, 2017, 03:25 PM   #4
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I live in a rural area complete with debris, pot holes and bumps, so have the Single Cab at around stock height for 'practickle porpoises.

And we are not disfunk, um, desfan, dysfink, displast....Darn bifocals...okay, we are unique.
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I live in a rural area complete with debris, pot holes and bumps, so have the Single Cab at around stock height for 'practickle porpoises.

And we are not disfunk, um, desfan, dysfink, displast....Darn bifocals...okay, we are unique.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 09:07 PM   #6
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Yeah I will most likely leave it around the same height because roads aren't to good around here...if anything I would like to level out the rear. Hoping to eventually do an IRS swap so I'm not burning through tyres aswell. I'm wondering at what height do I start to expirience fulcrum plate and rear bearing issues?
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The March '17 issue of DBs & Hot VWs has an excellent Tech article titled "Swing Axle Low Down" (pg 64), which explains the whole thing along with guys doing some practical real world test application.
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Thanks Transporter I'll get to reading! If I don't go any lower I'm thinking it should be fine, and every once and awhile I have rear of the car on jack stands for a few day so the bearings can get lubed. Here's the engine thats going to go in it its coming out of my 71; 1915cc With a Draw Thru setup. Right now it's only running on 3 cylinders so I got a new set of spark plugs and wires that should fix that problem. The company that setup the carb set it for drag racing so the motor ran its best at full throttle. I'm just going to use it has a street car so I boost referenced the carb and afterwards it ran much better. It also didn't help that I found a pencil-tip sized peice of metal shaving in the carb not letting any fuel through the passage
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Woof! That is a very cool setup. How big is that Holley?
One thing in the article is about the angle when the axle begins to 'bind' in the diff. They came up with 11.6 degrees off of level. This is interesting because a long time ago when I designed fire engines, a rep from Spicer told me their u-joints were good until a max of 11 degrees. Then all bets were off.
I'd run a completes Corvair powertrain in the Single Cab a few years earlier with the full 'Vair IRS adapted to mount off the modified VW trailing arms. I had the truck raised up with about 12 degrees at the joints. Though there didn't seem to be a bind, after a hundred miles or so they would began to 'click.' When I pulled them down, the roller bearings has begun to 'scar' along with the pins. I ended up lowering the truck back down so the u-joints were at about 7 degrees and with four new u-joints the problem ended. When you build interesting projects, there is always a learning curve.
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It's just a 500 2 barrel. I've been pondering throwing on some tan deep dish wheels and I found an app for IOS called Photoshop Mix that allows you too lower your car add new wheels chop the top etc very good for visualizing your car in a different way..without doing any work and I got them freakin pictures to work
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Okay...that is looooow. Nice wheels though.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 08:00 PM   #12
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I would love to be able to cruise at that height...and the adjusters could probably get me there but my beam would most likely be underground that why I want to Pie cut the frame head
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At that height, if the weather turned bad you could park under my Single Cab...though you might have to pull the luggage.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 05:43 PM   #14
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Hitting framehead at 60 will wake you up in a hurry!
Yeah no kidding! A few times I've scraped made the radio stop for a few seconds
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Slick lookin ride.

I like the way it sits now, but as everyone else said, it's yours, do what ya want

I never hit anything at 60, but I did hit a few opossums, yeah they drag a while & you can feel them under your feet once they do let go, yeah I always seen the blood streaks the next time I passed by
I raised it back up but it still has a rough ride, IF I had the money I'd bag mine


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One afternoon back in the late sixties I was driving my old Buick powered Ford coupe up Hwy 101 to San Francisco. A buddy was following behind in a Triumph TR-3. Ahead of me in the slow lane, a mattress tied to the top of a car suddenly came loose. I managed to swing into a narrow gap in the traffic to the right and barely missed it. There was no gap for my buddy, he hit it square on. I got over to the shoulder and ran back. He was sitting, still part way in the slow lane, his TR unable to move, the mattress stuck beneath it. The rear tires simply spun when he gunned it. Just after I got there, a CHP arrived and set out flares. A couple of other drivers also pulled over and hustled over to help. It was pretty funny until the mattress began to smoke from contact with the hot exhaust. The four of us tilted the Triumph up onto the driver's side wheels, while somehow managing to drag the mattress, which was now in flames, clear. Passing motorists slowed to honk, wave and cheer. Eventually, the patrolman used a small extinguisher to put out the fire.
The moral of the story....um...Oh! If his TR had been really slammed like your bug, he would have plowed under the mattress and it would have flown over the top.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #17
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Saw a front wheel drive lodged up on a concrete divide between roads; front wheels just spinning, trying to get off.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 01:16 PM   #18
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I've been warned that mine will be undrivable at this height. I'll probably bring it back up a little once I get it running. 10" out, 1.25" up. Dropped spindles and adjusters set for 0-3" drop. Currently all the way down
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I think you need your wheels aligned.
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Funny how I didn't even notice the front wheels pointing the way they are
Guess I was to busy looking at the measurement on the tape, your gonna have issues at intersections where the asphalt has sunk down where all the tires sit during the hot summer days, I had a warning, my license plate would drag, it was an inch lower than everything else, I just straddled the low spots & nothing touched


The story about the mattress, reminds me of a couple winters ago when my front apron sat about 1-1/2" above the pavement & I was on the interstate during a heavy snow fall, they hadn't plowed at all, the only semi clear place on the road was where the tires tracks were, once the snow got past 3" I was plowing a tiny bit, when it got up to 8" I was really plowing, I had to drive 65+ mph to go faster than all the BIG TRUCKS, otherwise when they went past my little low riding Volksrod the wind would push me out of the clear tracks & into the deep stuff, it would get a lil squilley, as long as I past them I could keep it under control, it's when I couldn't see them coming up behind me that was scary, purty sure I posted picks of it, I plowed snow the entire way, was definitely an adrenalin rush (me being the adrenalin junky that I am), definetly a fun filled 100 mile round trip in the deep stuff, the 1st & last 30 miles it was only about 3" to 4"


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I've been warned that mine will be undrivable at this height. I'll probably bring it back up a little once I get it running. 10" out, 1.25" up. Dropped spindles and adjusters set for 0-3" drop. Currently all the way down
With your trailing arms at such a negative angle - she'll definitely dance for you!!

I ran my Street Baja (slammed, very similarly but with LP). He would do the jitterbug just hitting a pebble - never a dull moment - but after a year or so I was so tired of it, I completely redid the front suspension - so happy with the way it rode later (and I didn't raise it much).
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I'm not sure how much of that angle is an optical illusion, but there are no tie rods in it. I tried to get them close before I took the pics. It's no biggie, I can get it 3" higher with the adjusters
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Tie rods? What are those?
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Ah come on Jeff, didn't you hear this was the new trend? haha

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A new trend? Gees, why am I always the last to know?
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