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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:31 AM   #26
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I think Griznat was doing a front engine flat 4.

Anyone heard from him lately ?
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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:48 AM   #27
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Griz was reported here last Friday. Sadly, all his pictures are gone.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:32 PM   #28
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Don't do the chevy 4.3 V6 thing. They sound like crap.

I don't care what you do to them, they don't have a sweet exhaust note.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 06:51 PM   #29
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This 2.8 doesn't sound too bad
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...7f00197eea.htm
Heres a nice set up for the 2.8

Heres a 3400


Only if I could find a nice Flathead
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Old March 5th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #30
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I had a Chevy 90 degree 3.8 V6.
Ran ok,never had a problem,besides the shitty electric choke.

But it did shake.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 06:56 PM   #31
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Only if I could find a nice Flathead
There are a LOT of motors I'd run before a flathead.
Less expensive,
more reliable,
more hp.

3 good reasons.

An inline 6 would work well with the body design.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 03:07 AM   #32
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Oh no ... another VW gets a Chevy motor. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Chevy guy, but if you're going to go that route, why not go all the way and add 6" to the frame and drop in a big block? You can't beat pure cubic inches for power dollar for dollar. And the exhaust note will be what only a big block can make it be.

But I'd still like to see this one be a more complete VW package:
VR6 VR6 VR6 VR6 .....
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Old March 6th, 2008, 05:58 AM   #33
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I can set you up with a flathead. Complete from carb to pan, flywheel to water pump.

Most likely needs a complete tear down-build up but it's all there.

MAN, would it ever cost $$$ to ship this thing. The Reverend tore the tendon right off of his knee when he twisted his leg moving it. Still isn't walking correctly . . .
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Old March 6th, 2008, 07:27 AM   #34
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Don't do the chevy 4.3 V6 thing. They sound like crap.

I don't care what you do to them, they don't have a sweet exhaust note.

I want what you're smokin'... (Unless it's pole you're smokin'... LOL!)

Mine sounds Kick Ass!

Or at least it did till I took the truck off the road...
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Old March 6th, 2008, 07:30 AM   #35
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This 2.8 doesn't sound too bad
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...7f00197eea.htm
Heres a nice set up for the 2.8

Heres a 3400
Now those are some sweet looking little motors!
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Old March 6th, 2008, 08:06 AM   #36
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The big block idea is great as so the small block. When it comes to fueling the beast that becomes the issue. Gas is $3.12 outside Chicago . Come April it will be $3.45 . By summer $4.00. With the tax base on fuel and the supply demand issue it's going to get expensive. I do work for a major oil company . Yes I do get the same gas discount everyone else gets. Since gasoline is heavily taxed employees cannot get any sort of discount. So ... is a small V6 worth it ? The complete fresh 2.8V V6 with 9to1 with the MFI and wiring system for $800 with starter alternator etc from a private party . I guess that can't be beat. An 1800 # car with a V6 should move .
I building this car to drive and not have it sit at a show on the weekends. Plus I have a 55 speedster replica w/ a type 4 in it ... that's the show car.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:05 AM   #37
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that makes sense although I have to point out that based on my experience building a v-6 up to have the hp and torque numbers to match a stock v8 ended up giving me the same mpg then the v8 got.

Someone mentioned the 4.3 sounding like shit, yep have to agree.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 08:43 PM   #38
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If you're just wanting to drive it and get good mpg's just throw a modern 4 banger in it and call it a day. The 2.0L in my 94 golf still gets 30+ mpg with 150k on it and is pretty peppy for pushing a 3000lb car. Stock it was rated at 115hp/125trq. In a chopped up a bug it would haul ass. You could probably get one from a junkyard for $5-600. I used to work in a european junkyard and we had tons of them laying around, we ended up just scrapping most of them. Just an idear .
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Old March 7th, 2008, 12:36 AM   #39
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Why not stay in the same brand ??



The VW/Audi V6 2.8L...........


This one will end in my project

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Old March 7th, 2008, 05:06 AM   #40
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A hotrod Rabbit motor would be cool. They used them a lot in offroad cars until the Toyotas came along.

This one is fast.

12 sec. Rabbit
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Old March 7th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #41
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Your project looks sweet!!

If you decide to go VR6 I have an extra.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #42
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I did look into all sort of motors including the VW and Audi's . Set ups ,adapter etc are what really kills those ideas. So the V6 I'm getting has 180 HP . Matched up with a 5spd T5 should be decent all around. Isn't the concept of Ratrodding and Volksrodding of being creative on a low budget. $800 for refresh complete motor .... with everything ! Who can pass up that deal.
Know anyone looking for a 54 complete pan in decent shape? It's posted on Samba.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #43
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Concept? I think the idea is for you to build what you think is cool and let us second guess you all the way!
Do it your way man. We'll like it no matter what!
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Old March 7th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #44
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Found this photo here on Volksrods. I made a slight change which tends to show what this project will look like. The Salt flat wheels were in the orginal plan from the start.


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Old March 16th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #45
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Here's the motor . Not bad for $800 with a T5 thrown in to the deal and a complete wire harness.

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Man what a crazy intake, those intake runners have to be like 2 feet long.
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Old April 4th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #47
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Finally have some spare time plus $$$$. Working on the engine fit and the ride height. I'll have to make some custom headers for this thing .




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Old April 13th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #48
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It slowly coming to shape .

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Old April 13th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #49
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Looks great man, the nose is really going to be cool with that motor up front! Me love it!!!
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One kick ass project man! Very nice!
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