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Old September 5th, 2008, 04:06 AM   #1
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Default Wheel help

I am in need of some advice. I have altered the rear of my bug a little bit() and now need a wheel with very very little backspacing. To do the body framework I mounted my stock wide five rims backward. I am now wondering if I can safely runs these wheels like this, is there a way to make them safe or can someone suggest a suitable replacement. Thanks alot.

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Old September 5th, 2008, 05:05 AM   #2
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You have a couple options, flipped rim like you have (not reccomended), custom VW wheels, most likely custom made ($$$$$$$$), wheel adapters and appropiate junkyard wheels to fit (time consuming finding the right wheel, I'm not fond of adapters) or (what I would do. Cut the center out of your VW wheels, take your time. Cut the center out of a mid 90's S10 steel wheel, weld in you VW center in the rim of the s10 rim--Done, VW pattern with the perfect offset for your aplication. (Very time consuming, but worth it in the coolness factor)
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Old September 5th, 2008, 06:04 AM   #3
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In the 60's a lot of guys ran around with the wheels mounted backwards like that.

If you have another running car with wide 5 pattern, you can use that to spin your wheel (with engine slowly) and use a lathe bit firmly mounted in a heavy fixture to cut the center out of your wheel.

This gives you a perfect, centered cut. Then you need to mount your center in another rim, like the S10 suggested.

if you like to spend money, you could also send your wheels out to have this done. There are several wheel shops that can do this for you. You don't want a wobbly, off center wheel, so if you arn't really set up to do this, you may be better off sending them out.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 07:25 AM   #4
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You can also just reverse the center in the same rim. This is what a lot of the old hot roddrs did back before there were lots of aftermarket wheels. They "reversed" the center piece to give more offset to the outside, which give the visual appearance of a wider wheel.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 08:13 AM   #5
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buy the correct wheels from diamond racing. they're about $50 each
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Old September 5th, 2008, 10:20 AM   #6
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Those Diamond wheels are not the right bolt pattern. Just because they call them "wide-5" they won't fit a VW. The pattern they are calling wide-5 is 5x10.25 if I'm remembering correctly, not 5x205mm VW.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure if you call them, they do VW wheels too
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I have and I know other that have run wheel reversed like that with no problem (even on off-road). Main issue is keeping the lugs tight. So with that in mind it is as safe as any mod.

But with the swing axle you may still have a clearance issue when you hit bumps. As they will swing up and in. Mostly in

I would suggest wheel adapters. On a wide five you can get good steel ones. Then just find an off-set wheel.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #9
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Thanks guys for the replies so far. At least I know I have alot of good options.

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You can also just reverse the center in the same rim. This is what a lot of the old hot roddrs did back before there were lots of aftermarket wheels. They "reversed" the center piece to give more offset to the outside, which give the visual appearance of a wider wheel.
Don't forget to weld the valve stem hole closed and drill one on the other side.Putting air in the backside can be a bitch on a cold wet day.Don't ask how I know this.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 09:08 PM   #11
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These are porsche 914? rims...

They have very little backspacing. I found that out when I mounted my new drop spindles. The lower ball joint hit the inside of the rim in the back.

mebbe something like 'em would work?

I've seen 'em run for two hundred a set at swap meets.

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why not make a tub into the body for a wheel recess?
THAT is something you can do yerself, for free:) and not hafta buy new wheels and hope they fit, work and dont rub against the body when ya load the suspension:)

a 55 gal drum could be attained really cheap, cut the create the desired depth, then trim the existing metalwork of the body arund it, then reinforce after ya weld it up.

steel is cheap, so ya might even consider an entire rebuild of the rear framework?

I'd be glad to give up some detailed idears for a lil better structure if yer interested, just drop me a PM:)

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To tag along with Fonzy's idea, you can also get trailer fenders for cheap. They have a nice rolled edge for the inner tub, you just fit it to the body, add flat sheet for the lower inner (you can use what you cut out from the body!!). Lots of the super low truck guys use them when they have to remove their factory fenderwells. Easy and cheap, two of Volksrodders favorite words. Works for car parts or girls
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Don't forget to weld the valve stem hole closed and drill one on the other side.Putting air in the backside can be a bitch on a cold wet day.Don't ask how I know this.
Dan you did it wrong! You turned the rim around, you should have just turned the center around. That way the valve stem would still be on the right side!
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I know CIP sells 1" 205mm spacers. How much room do you need?
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Old September 7th, 2008, 01:37 PM   #16
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I know CIP sells 1" 205mm spacers. How much room do you need?
That would more than do it. I wasn't aware that they sold them that thick. Thanks alot I will check them out pronto. I am as interested in getting the wheel away from the body for aesthetics as I am for clearance. I was going to run fenderless, but found out about PA's fender laws, so I will have to change my plans a bit.

Anyway, thanks again.
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