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Old June 27th, 2004, 12:32 AM   #1
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Hey guys,
Just had a few q'ss for pistol and others
And i know that it sounds NEWBIE but shit i dont know about pinstriping and ill be the first to admit it [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crybaby.gif[/img]
Anyways, First off what kind of brushes do you guys recremend using????and how much do they cost????
Second, What is 1 shot , i know it is paint but how does it differ from enamel, lacker, and urathene.?
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Old June 27th, 2004, 02:43 AM   #2
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1shot is a lead base sign painters enamel (lead base may have changed since I used i last) I belive the brus I have heard the most about is the mack 10. I dont know if you want the one with the red or blue hair??? try searching for striping and some more stuff might come up. I would help you search but I am about to leave work and I dont have pc access at home. good luck though and welcome to the boards.
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Old June 27th, 2004, 05:11 AM   #3
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isnt mack 10 a rapper? LOL. 1-shot used to have lead in it but they had to take it out. Its an oil based enamel made for sign painters, it has very good flow and coverage, the ONLY paint i use.
there are many pinstriping brushes you can buy, the most common all round brush is the MACK 00 the only cost about $7 give or take. www.mackbrush.com and just type pinstriping in the search feature and catch up on many posts on here with so much handy info and before you know it you'll be a pro.
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Old June 27th, 2004, 11:36 AM   #4
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Mack 00 owns. I suck, but my mack is badass.
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Old June 27th, 2004, 11:38 AM   #5
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Mack 10 will bust a whole load of "lead based"caps in yo' ass. holla





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Mack 10 will but a whole load of "lead based"caps in yo' ass. holla
true dat! hell bust yo bizzy and yo grizzil like a muh fuggin pro! don't mess wit mack 10
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Old June 27th, 2004, 02:13 PM   #7
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Oh shit, here we go again!! :(
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>QUOTE (p-nor @ Jun 27 2004, 11:38 AM)
Mack 10 will but a whole load of "lead based"caps in yo' ass. holla



true dat! hell bust yo bizzy and yo grizzil like a muh fuggin pro! don't mess wit mack 10 [/b][/quote]


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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img] now... go get striping fo I bus a cap in yo ass fo sho bizatch... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fingerclear.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crybaby.gif[/img]
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Old June 27th, 2004, 04:03 PM   #9
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Is this stupidghettoslang.com ? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused.gif[/img] :shrug:
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Old June 27th, 2004, 08:13 PM   #10
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I've got some pinstripe q's too, What type of cleaner do you use to clean out 1 shot out of a mack 10 00? What type of oil do you use? and do you cut your tip? (what angle etc..)

Anyone have the info that was on the Hamb? I search but nothing!

Thanks and sorry to hijack the thread!
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Old June 27th, 2004, 08:22 PM   #11
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I use Odourless Mineral Spirits for clean up.
Neets Foot Oil,from Mack,for storing my brushes.
Any place that sells saddles will have Neets Foot Oil.
My second choice would be Mineral Oil,from your local drug store.

I trim all my brushes,some radically,
but strongly encourage beginners NOT to,
until they can control the brush and understand how it works.

When your starting out,there are so many things to struggle with,
it really doesn't make a difference if your brush is trimmed or not.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:22 AM   #12
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I have had nothing but problems when i trim my brushes. I need someone to show me how to trim them the right way(Hint hint unkl ian!). And honestly the easiest way to learn is to pick up a brush and go to town on some glass( you can keep cleaning it off). you will eventually learn to control your pressure on the brush, and the angles you need to hold it at to pull nice clean lines. once you can pull a clean line start standing up the brush a bit and roll it slightly in your fingers while you turn. when you cant figure out how to do something you ask someone with more experiance, and PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE!!!!
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM   #13
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ya ya harass me thats fine :D I never striped with it I just used one shot with an airbrush & stencil to put dealer logos on cars at the lot. I havent messed with one shot in 10 years. I was trying to remember what I could before I left from work I have a friend who collects assault rifles as a hobby so thats probably why mack 10 was sticking in my head lol. oh well listen to pistolpete he will lead you in the right direction. pistol didnt one shot have lead in it at one point I seem to rember there being something on the label about lead in the paint
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:57 AM   #14
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both unkl and oldschool know their stuff also. 1-shot did have lead in it back in the day, but to tell you the truth, it still works pretty good without it, and so it's safer for you. i used to use proper brush oil aka neatsfoot with my old boss years ago but all of a sudden it started drying out bad and it ruined so many of my expensive brushes, the aussie heat didnt go well with it, since i used good old motor oil, i havent had a problem, and any mineral spirits will clean out both the 1-shot and the motor oil out. i learnt to trim the brushes from a pinstriping and auto graphics book i bought threw signcraft magazine. like the other guys said, its best to learn to use the brush first, because the trimming is more like custom making the brush to suit your style, so develop that first. the way to do it though is to lay the brush flat on a piece of glass, and a begginer trim is to just simply hold a razor blade at a 45 to the very tip of the hairs keeping it in the direction of a knife blade and push down getting rid of any sneeky hairs poking out, this little trim will let you do your joins a lot tidier,stick with this one first if any. good luck fellas
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:58 AM   #15
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do a search for the 1000 stroke brush technique i wrote about one day, thats some very good practice :D
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Old June 28th, 2004, 05:24 PM   #16
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hey uncle and ian got any picks of your stuff? I know I would like to see it. we ought to do a pinstripers album and make it a sticky.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 05:29 PM   #17
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I've posted some of my stuff here earlier.
Or go to www.metalshapers.org,
and in the alblums section,
search for "Unkl Ian" to find my Pinstriping alblum.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:22 PM   #18
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wow Ian that is some killer stuff I think the hardest part for me would be to come up with the designs any tips for that?
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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:28 PM   #19
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Load up the brush and see what comes out! That's what I've been doing. That and looking at a lot of designs (do a google image search or check the galleries on sites that have already been mentioned) and pull what you like out of those designs. The stuff I did on my car was just starting with a line or shape and figuring out how to connect it with another line or shape. Once you start it just keeps going. But be very careful... once you start you'll see stripes on everything! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif[/img]


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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:41 PM   #20
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I start with a 1" grid,using a Stabillo.Then draw the first elements of the design with French curves,and paint with my first color.
When that is dry,repeat with the second color,and so on.
The Stabillo washes off with water when completed.

I try to avoid perfectly straight lines,especially vertical or horizontal.
To my eye,90 degree corners and obtuse angles don't work.

Study other people work,trying to understand what looks good,and why.
Also understand what doesn't look good,and why.
Break their designs down into individual elements,try to reproduce them and combine them in different ways.

Use a variety of strokes,different line widths,and lengths,for variety.

More discussion about Pinstriping can be found here:
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Old June 29th, 2004, 02:53 AM   #21
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Thanks for the tips fellas [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif[/img] I got the mineral oil didn't know it was a "body cleaner" too :o It'd sure be a shame for that to "spill" in some purists coffee ;) Thanks again for the help! should be getting my brushes this week and I'll start stripeing!

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