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Old October 6th, 2005, 08:02 AM   #1
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I want smoothie 16 inch wheels, but dont have the dollar to buy a new set (plus these wheels have brand new tyres on em), so i figured on welding up the holes in em? Good idea? How much will this fuck up the balancing etc? any thoughts?
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Old October 6th, 2005, 08:25 AM   #2
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leave them flat black, no one will see them cruisin down the rd.

or, why not just get some moon discs and paint them if you want?
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Old October 6th, 2005, 08:35 AM   #3
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grant (grizant spl?) made a set of 4 lug smoothies, check out his update/into page for details.

I would take off the tires, and have them remounted/reballanced after welding/painting due to the changes in weight, and posibble dammage to the rubber (even tho it's vulcanized)
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Old October 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM   #4
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grant (grizant spl?) made a set of 4 lug smoothies, check out his update/into page for details.

I would take off the tires, and have them remounted/reballanced after welding/painting due to the changes in weight, and posibble dammage to the rubber (even tho it's vulcanized)



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Old October 6th, 2005, 10:25 AM   #5
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grant (grizant spl?) made a set of 4 lug smoothies, check out his update/into page for details.

Scott (joedirt) also made a set of 4 lug smoothies, but used fiberglass and resin to fill the holes instead of welding them up. Check his "Newbie Build" thread. Might be a better option for your wheels just due to the sheer number of holes you would have to fill. Also looks like the filler pieces would need compound curvature or a whole bunch of filler.

I would also worry some about warping the wheel by putting that much heat into it.

Take the rubber off, do the modifications, remount the tires, and then rebalance and you should be good to go.
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Old October 6th, 2005, 01:01 PM   #6
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if you take the rubber off (even though you'd like to avoid that), maybe offer them up for trade for a set of smoothies?

I'm sure some smoothie owner is the polar opposite of you and wants holey rims...


What about getting some fillers stamped out and fixing them on the back with some type of resin/glue? idk about metal to resin adhesion, but it may give you the effect you're looking for without all the work of filling the holes in yourself with fiberglass.

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Old October 6th, 2005, 03:22 PM   #7
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imo:that's alotta of holes which means alotta welding.then you get into warpage,balancing,cracking.just to much of a chance of wheel failure because of the welding.there is no way someone can guarantee you that there will not be wheel failure from welding on them that much.being the holes are pretty much side by side and after welding them up, would induce cracking inline with your line of holes and would cause the inner hub to want to separate from outer hub.i think you would do better to trade or sell and buy what you are wanting.welding up holes on rims is too much of a risk and I do not recommend it.now the only part of welding on rims that i would fill safe doing is changing center hubs with diff. outer rims and only if the diameters were exactly the same for same tight fit as original. sorry.rod-on SAFELY.
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Old October 6th, 2005, 06:24 PM   #8
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Sounds kinda cheesy and won't last for ever but here it goes.

Tape off those holes with some Aluminum tape and then glass it from the back side. Then bondo and finish off the face. Smoothy wheels.
They won't last for ever but they should last you a few years at least and you should be able to save up for replacements or whatever......

If the metal is roughed up and clean you should be able to get the them to go at least like 5 years without cracking, provided you don't over catalize your resin. Even longer if you use Epoxy.

Joe Dirt did it and his wheels look great.
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Never weld on a rim with the tire mounted,Death or serious injury has occured from people welding cracks in rims and then loosing part of their scull.....Donald
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